Re: How to add credits to your machine? « Reply #10 on: December 23, 2011, 07:51:53 AM » I might also point out for those that might be unaware that machines listed on EBAY have to be listed as unable to accept any kind of coin or currancy per EBAY regulations. Paid out by the hopper or credited to the machines CREDIT display meter. If there are no credits on the CREDIT METER, insert 1-3 tokens to repeat game play. 2.6 Play Credit Button If the machine is being used in the credit mode, the PLAY CREDIT button may be utilized to credit a payline, one at a time, assuming there are credits displayed.
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Abandoned credits/tickets & whether it’s finders keepers or property of the casino/state is constantly debated among many gamblers. There doesn’t appear to be any uniformed rules & it really depends from casino to casino, state to state. My approach is to simply not take them. As an advantage player I never want to give a casino a reason to throw me out. If I see a small amount of abandoned credits on a machine I’ll cash it out & set it aside. If it’s a good sized chunk I’ll notify a slot attendant & have them deal with it.
Some casinos have a relaxed attitude towards credit hustlers. I don’t know if he’s still getting away with it in 2019, but here’s a New York Times article from 2012 about a guy who was doing pretty decent buzzing around Resorts World Casino in New York & taking abandoned credits. Other casinos however will show you the door & ban you for the day. Others when they catch you will ban you for life.
I knew a hustler several years ago who was making really good money at a particular casino. This casino had a ton of advantage slot machines & he didn’t have much competition for plays as it was a casino that was in a fairly remote location. He dominated the place.
This slot hustler had a habit of always cashing out abandoned credits on machines while making the rounds. He wasn’t particularly slick about it either. He didn’t sit on the machine, put a ticket/bill in the machine, check the rules of the game or things of a similar nature. You know just in case he would get caught to pull the plausible deniability card. No, he would always walk directly to the machine, push the cashout button, collect & walk away. He had been warned by the casino before & other hustlers would advise him to stop doing it, especially if he was going to do it like that.
One day I get a call from the hustler. He tells me he’s been lifetime banned from that particular casino. I ask why but he doesn’t want to get into the details. I respect his wishes & don’t press any further. It wasn’t until much later that I found out that the reason he was banned was because he took an abandoned ticket worth 32 cents. This hustler blew his chance to continue making thousands upon thousands of dollars for 32 cents.
Some casinos depending on the jurisdiction will get the law involved to actually prosecute you. Colorado is one state that takes the prosecution route. Here and here are a couple of links to articles written in 2017 about how they deal with credit hustlers. Do I think Colorado’s approach to credit hustlers extreme? Definitely, & it looks as if there’s a complete lack of common sense as well as a waste of resources to treat people like criminals for what in many cases appears to be taking minuscule amounts of money. In some of these cases it even appears that people are doing it unknowingly. If someone cashes out a $500 when a player is looking the other way sure. But for $2? Give me a break.
Now could you take abandoned credits left on a machine & get away with it? More than likely. Lots of people do it all the time & nothing happens to them. We’re in the business of gambling but with so much money to be made from the advantage slot machines, it’s a bet I’m not willing to make.
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http://kdvr.com/2017/11/15/casino-customers-prosecuted-for-playing-abandoned-slot-credits/
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Assuming the casino isn't forced to bring charges against the players stealing $2 or whatever, it'd be much better in about every possible way to:
1. Don't worry about it, let it go. Only 'go after' the sleezebags that are buffalo hunting / silver mining, or whatever you call it (people who walk the aisles, cashing out anything they see).
2. Next time player is in the casino, confront them and tell them they can't play off abandoned credits.
3. Put up some signs or some disclaimer saying it's illegal to play off abandoned credits, but still follow #1 and #2 above.
A dozen or so cases involved what appeared to be intentional criminal behavior: Cheating at roulette, wandering around slot machine to slot machine looking for credits, failing to honor a raise in poker, and failing to provide valid identification for IRS purposes after winning a $1,000 jackpot.
Wait, wut?
Signage would be a simple matter.
I abandoned a $16 Tito and security gave two chits. They pull out every ticket with not a care, not really sure what they do about hunting down the rightful owners. Supposedly it all goes to charity, but I'm not sure I believe it.
I think it depends on the staff roster as some staff are diligently doing the job to the casino specs others are a bit more relaxed. I have on an odd occasion left money in a machine gone back and it is gone, at the cage I mentioned to the cashier that it should have been more to enter into my cage account than what I was depositing, she ask why I told her about left ticket etc ie it’s long gone, she got a suit to come with me to machine no one there no money etc Next day at cage withdrawal of day bank I was asked to wait, after some time a suit gave me paperwork for $120 odd claim . They tracked down the other person and got the cash from them. On another occasion I had dropped a ticket somewhere, afterwards I realised went to a host and told them and was told in reply too bad the casino is not responsible etc. that person didn’t know casinos rules etc. no I didn’t get cash back on that one.
So yes it is a rule re casino owners of all money on property, if staff find chips etc they are not allowed to pick up as a finder keeps they must direct security to the place it ( chip) is located. Now if I find a amount in machine I pop the ticket and give to host at main counter take their name and number just in case I have to clarify myself in the future.
If I find cash or chips on floor at table or in cash dispenser I keep ,and have not been approached in that regard ever.
We have plastic money , static electricity sticks the notes to top of inside of cash change dispenser , so people cash a $2000 ticket don’t count the Bill’s dispensed, walk away leaving a couple of hundred still in machines, you happen to be next and nice bonus, I might add if the person was just in front of me I alert them to the oversight and give them the cash , they are thankful but don’t tip ha ha , if no one was before me and I don’t take the cash to host desk , I keep it.
I have been at a baccarat table when security have taken some one off table and ask for a few hundred dollars that person had received from the day before as an over payment from a dealer mistake the day before , they explained that it’s a mistake yes but it’s up to us to be honest etc and correct dealer on the day and give it back then. So now this lady had to pay up or be fined for theft etc.
She paid and was allowed to play on.
I view it as bank error, keep it , as lucky I have not been asked to pay back , I might mention I was also over paid at the same table as the above mentioned lady and I was half expecting to be asked to return some cash as well. They didn’t ask me , I didn’t volunteer, ha ha
We have free phone charger machine here ,6 units per machine type in a password put phone in to recharge close door, collect phone half hr later put in password door open collect phone. So what you say
A few months later a security and police tap on your shoulder, you are accused of stealing a phone, you have to prove you did not , this has not happened to me personally but I have been present when acquaintances have been questioned, a couple I’m sure would not steal but the other one maybe.
I do not drink as I have to drive to and from the casino, I do not drink as I gamble, completely hard wired rule once upon arrival I bought a juice and was walking between blackjack tables back counting ( in the old days pre automatic shuffle machine) saw a count in my favour finished rest of juice put glass down and put cash on table for chips ready to play etc. tap tap on shoulder I was taken from table as I had been deemed to be drunk according to camera footage. I took them to bar and located staff members who served me etc security said sorry etc , I missed my count, no big deal , another table later etc
The point being you are on casino property and it’s their rules, a bit like going overseas and shoplifting, difference being your not at home.
Kind regards
I abandoned a $16 Tito and security gave two chits. They pull out every ticket with not a care, not really sure what they do about hunting down the rightful owners. Supposedly it all goes to charity, but I'm not sure I believe it.
At the casino I work at, all found money not claimed goes to the local boys and girls club. Money not paid out on jackpots due to a player being banned or self excluded also goes to charity.
ZCore13 Money not paid out on jackpots due to a player being banned or self excluded...
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Wow wow wow! If you booked the bet and took the losing ones....unless you're on tribal ground.
Wow wow wow! If you booked the bet and took the losing ones....unless you're on tribal ground.
Yes, tribal. That's the way all tribal casinos work in Arizona.
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I think it depends on the staff roster as some staff are diligently doing the job to the casino specs others are a bit more relaxed. I have on an odd occasion left money in a machine gone back and it is gone, at the cage I mentioned to the cashier that it should have been more to enter into my cage account than what I was depositing, she ask why I told her about left ticket etc ie it’s long gone, she got a suit to come with me to machine no one there no money etc Next day at cage withdrawal of day bank I was asked to wait, after some time a suit gave me paperwork for $120 odd claim . They tracked down the other person and got the cash from them. On another occasion I had dropped a ticket somewhere, afterwards I realised went to a host and told them and was told in reply too bad the casino is not responsible etc. that person didn’t know casinos rules etc. no I didn’t get cash back on that one.
So yes it is a rule re casino owners of all money on property, if staff find chips etc they are not allowed to pick up as a finder keeps they must direct security to the place it ( chip) is located. Now if I find a amount in machine I pop the ticket and give to host at main counter take their name and number just in case I have to clarify myself in the future.
If I find cash or chips on floor at table or in cash dispenser I keep ,and have not been approached in that regard ever.
We have plastic money , static electricity sticks the notes to top of inside of cash change dispenser , so people cash a $2000 ticket don’t count the Bill’s dispensed, walk away leaving a couple of hundred still in machines, you happen to be next and nice bonus, I might add if the person was just in front of me I alert them to the oversight and give them the cash , they are thankful but don’t tip ha ha , if no one was before me and I don’t take the cash to host desk , I keep it.
I have been at a baccarat table when security have taken some one off table and ask for a few hundred dollars that person had received from the day before as an over payment from a dealer mistake the day before , they explained that it’s a mistake yes but it’s up to us to be honest etc and correct dealer on the day and give it back then. So now this lady had to pay up or be fined for theft etc.
She paid and was allowed to play on.
I view it as bank error, keep it , as lucky I have not been asked to pay back , I might mention I was also over paid at the same table as the above mentioned lady and I was half expecting to be asked to return some cash as well. They didn’t ask me , I didn’t volunteer, ha ha
We have free phone charger machine here ,6 units per machine type in a password put phone in to recharge close door, collect phone half hr later put in password door open collect phone. So what you say
A few months later a security and police tap on your shoulder, you are accused of stealing a phone, you have to prove you did not , this has not happened to me personally but I have been present when acquaintances have been questioned, a couple I’m sure would not steal but the other one maybe.
I do not drink as I have to drive to and from the casino, I do not drink as I gamble, completely hard wired rule once upon arrival I bought a juice and was walking between blackjack tables back counting ( in the old days pre automatic shuffle machine) saw a count in my favour finished rest of juice put glass down and put cash on table for chips ready to play etc. tap tap on shoulder I was taken from table as I had been deemed to be drunk according to camera footage. I took them to bar and located staff members who served me etc security said sorry etc , I missed my count, no big deal , another table later etc
The point being you are on casino property and it’s their rules, a bit like going overseas and shoplifting, difference being your not at home.
Kind regards
Pennsylvania does a good job of brainwashing people to think there is not finders keepers, but there is, with qualification. The law they quote with their interpretation doesn't even match up, very much so contrary in meaning.
I don't think anyone can be found guilty if they attempt to look for the owner, and they return it to the rightful owner if found. When it comes to casino employees picking up money, they have the tools, should use them, and if not, it's wrong by me.
In Ohio, unclaimed funds laws were changed from $10 minimum to $50 right after the first casinos opened. It might be why the casinos seem lazy, because perhaps it frees them from the responsibility.